DUST Search - PS3 Hard Crash and will not restart

Dewie Cheecham wrote:

Enderr Wigginn wrote:

Jax GG wrote:

The two You Tube videos I've seen show them stripping the system right out.... all parts taken away. Clearing the old compound, heating the motherboard a little then heating the CPU/GPU much more, letting it cool and then re-applying new compound paste.

^^^^^^^ In my experience with this repair, it works but is only temporary

Reflowing is total different and no offense but should be done by some one with experience but it is a permanent repair.

Heres the wiki for "Reflow soldering is a process in which a solder paste (a sticky mixture of powdered solder and flux) is used to temporarily attach one or several electrical components to their contact pads, after which the entire assembly is subjected to controlled heat, which melts the solder, permanently connecting the joint. Heating may be accomplished by passing the assembly through a reflow oven or under an infrared lamp or by soldering individual joints with a hot air pencil."

I think you are talking about re-balling. Reflowing is generally heating the board enough to cause the solder to reflow. Not a good one in the long run as it is hard to get all the solder to melt, and because reheating solder weakens it.
Re-balling is removing the CPU/GPU entirely, clean up all the solder on the board and ship, and apply new tin balls that work as the solder and pin at the same time.


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Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.05 19:07:00 - [1] - Quote The heat gun repair for the ylod is actually really easy, I have done it on about eight ps3 now BUT it is only a temporary the best I got out of one was about three months some only last a couple of weeks. You can only reheat solder but so much because it loses its strength ever time. Reflowing the circuit board is a permanent but more expensive. I recommend doing the heat gun repair and trading it in at game stop for a slim.
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.05 19:26:00 - [2] - Quote Lonewolf514 wrote: Enderr Wigginn wrote: The heat gun repair for the ylod is actually really easy, I have done it on about eight ps3 now BUT it is only a temporary the best I got out of one was about three months some only last a couple of weeks. You can only reheat solder but so much because it loses its strength ever time. Reflowing the circuit board is a permanent but more expensive. I recommend doing the heat gun repair and trading it in at game stop for a slim. you do know life has a way of screwing you over for all the bad you do right? Lol Yes I do. So I make sure I do a lot of good on the side to counter act the bad on a side note I have never done this and I would never. All the PS3's I repaired where not mine.
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.05 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote Jax GG wrote: The two You Tube videos I've seen show them stripping the system right out.... all parts taken away. Clearing the old compound, heating the motherboard a little then heating the CPU/GPU much more, letting it cool and then re-applying new compound paste. ^^^^^^^ In my experience with this repair, it works but is only temporary Reflowing is total different and no offense but should be done by some one with experience but it is a permanent repair. Heres the wiki for "Reflow soldering is a process in which a solder paste (a sticky mixture of powdered solder and flux) is used to temporarily attach one or several electrical components to their contact pads, after which the entire assembly is subjected to controlled heat, which melts the solder, permanently connecting the joint. Heating may be accomplished by passing the assembly through a reflow oven or under an infrared lamp or by soldering individual joints with a hot air pencil."
Enderr Wigginn KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 57	Posted - 2012.10.06 01:35:00 - [4] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Enderr Wigginn wrote: Jax GG wrote: The two You Tube videos I've seen show them stripping the system right out.... all parts taken away. Clearing the old compound, heating the motherboard a little then heating the CPU/GPU much more, letting it cool and then re-applying new compound paste. ^^^^^^^ In my experience with this repair, it works but is only temporary Reflowing is total different and no offense but should be done by some one with experience but it is a permanent repair. Heres the wiki for "Reflow soldering is a process in which a solder paste (a sticky mixture of powdered solder and flux) is used to temporarily attach one or several electrical components to their contact pads, after which the entire assembly is subjected to controlled heat, which melts the solder, permanently connecting the joint. Heating may be accomplished by passing the assembly through a reflow oven or under an infrared lamp or by soldering individual joints with a hot air pencil." I think you are talking about re-balling. Reflowing is generally heating the board enough to cause the solder to reflow. Not a good one in the long run as it is hard to get all the solder to melt, and because reheating solder weakens it. Re-balling is removing the CPU/GPU entirely, clean up all the solder on the board and ship, and apply new tin balls that work as the solder and pin at the same time. I had never heard of reballing until now, I did a little quick research and that is nuts, to actually remove the chipset from the board and rework everything which is definitely a permanent fix but is insanely hard . Reflowing (linked wiki) which is still hard but no where nearly that hard is when you leave the chipset on the board but you apply a special solder then heat the board up and the new solder flows through the board resoldering the chipset with new solder which is also a permanent repair. The youtube video which is the most easy of the three shows you how to heat the board causing the existing solder to reform itself and like you said it weakens the solder and is only a very temporary repair I do not "think" this has a name.